Why are Chinese jealous of Korean?

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Kristina2006-10-07, 22:40#1
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Subject:Korea and the Koreans
Hi Guys!
I only recently discovered you here and already made myself known in the other subject area)))). I have a very special question for the Koreans who were not born in Korea: Are you also accepted / regarded as Koreans by the "native" Koreans (Koreans who were born in Korea), or are you "Europeans" for them? ? How is it for you not to have a fatherland or motherland, or better said Germany as a fatherland with the conscience that you are not German (appearance, some opinions, etc.).
I myself am a full-blooded Korean, but I was born in Kazakhstan and lived in Russia for a while, then we came to Germany. In the meantime I see Germany as my home and I wouldn't want to establish my existence in Russia, Kazakhstan or Korea. The "real" Koreans see me as a foreigner or Russian ... which seems completely nonsensical to me, I did not grow up in Korea, but I had my grandmother who always strictly adhered to the whole Korean traditions and the same of us has demanded ... Well tell me your opinion! Would be glad
Greetings, your Kris
Hedgehog(Administrator)2006-10-10, 18:39#4
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Hello Kristina, welcome on board!

Sorry, I seem to have missed this topic, otherwise I would of course have greeted you earlier. I'll translate (to the best of my knowledge) what Sensha78 wrote:
I am delighted to meet you.
I am also korean
Your German is very good.
I'm jealous ^^
I'm not sure about this, I think: I'm interested in the German language.
But I can't speak it well ^^; <- A sweating smiley, is often used for embarrassing

Greetings, Johannes
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Hedgehog(Administrator)2006-10-11, 22:31#9
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I don't like China that much for a number of reasons. On the one hand, I think the political situation is anything but good and worthy of support. For example, China is the country where the most people are executed, both per capita and overall. Freedom of expression is not guaranteed there either, China is investing a lot of money in filtering the Internet free of unwanted content (Tian'anmen massacre, Taiwan question, Falungong, etc.) and locking critics away with long prison terms.

Furthermore, the "I-boss-you-sneaker" mentality is said to be even more extreme there (see below). The company I work for has a lot of orders from China, and according to some who have trained and installed there, it's very difficult to work with Chinese bosses because they can't be told by someone who is socially under suits them. Even if they have no idea about the topic and the other is a trained specialist. I don't know if it's really that extreme, that's just the opinion of two or three people.

Plus, in my opinion, standard Chinese is really one of the most difficult languages ​​of all. Phonetics has little in common with German, it is a tonal language and to be able to read the only common script reasonably well, you have to have learned 3000 characters. In addition, everyone knows China more or less, while Korea is surprisingly unknown for its importance. And I like to be interested in things that not so many otherwise know.

My experiences with Koreans so far have been pretty positive almost without exception. You might see it differently from a Russian point of view. Korean society is still very vertically structured, so I can well imagine that if you have little money and have not had a good education, you will be treated pretty badly. A Korean friend also told me that some Koreans are quite selfish. So far I've only been there on vacation, but neither there nor in films have I noticed any greater egoism than here, for example. When I've lived there for a longer period of time, I will surely know better. ^^

Greetings, Johannes
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mosquito(Former member)2006-10-14, 05:11#12
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Why do you go to Korea?

When I was around 18 I thought about what I would do in my future - and one thing was clear from the start: nothing related to Asia. I had the extreme prejudice of constantly smiling people without emotions, who are friendly towards the front - but actually don't mean it at all. No 10 horses would have brought me to the land of the rising sun.

And then: I started a job where I gradually got more and more to do with Korea. Initially only by e-mail. After some initial difficulties (what is the first name and what is the last name?) The cooperation worked better and better - but not yet well either. So I made the suggestion to go on a business trip to Korea to get to know my local colleagues - and was very positively surprised.
I found a country with state-of-the-art technology (just yesterday someone was sitting at the next table at Starbucks and watching a baseball game live on TV on his mobile phone) that is at the same time much more archaic and original than the West (visit the fish market in Busan, then you know what I mean). This contradiction makes the country interesting.

In any case, I quickly realized that the people here are only human - actually with more friendly smiles on their faces than average in Europe - but that can't hurt either.

After living in Korea for about 4 months now, I cannot say that my prejudice from then has been completely revised. There is one or the other misunderstanding of communication - especially when it comes to the word "no" - but by and large it is good to live and work in Korea.
(I live with the constant smile - my Korean colleagues have to live with my straight attitude, but the differences in particular make it kind of exciting)

Since many have mentioned "China" in their posts, I would also like to briefly comment on this. I've been to China twice, each for about 1-2 weeks. I got the impression that the hierarchical relationship in the job is much more extreme than in Korea. My Korean colleagues treat me as equals here. We do things together, we can ask each other's advice. In China, I'm the German from the parent company, who has to be treated with extreme respect. It is extremely difficult to develop a relationship with people. Personally, I am glad that I am here in Korea and not in China.

By and large, I can also confirm the other opinions on China in the previous posts.

Best regards